https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/giuliani-biden-family-coverups-it-is-treason-outlines/
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The power of a Grand Jury is enormous. Here's the Catch-22: Biden's family has to testify. They have no ability not to testify. If they indeed have a blanket pardon, then they can't incriminate themselves."
"If they don't testify, you put them in jail. And if they commit perjury, you prosecute them. This is a necessary way to clean up this horrible system of justice we have, and finally make it equal, and fair, for all," Giuliani said."